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the place is in a tsa screening line. >> an arrest warrant for former vice president dick cheney has been ised by the country of nigeria. good luck with that this time of year because he's busy in who vi whoville trying to steal christmas. >> john king u.s.a. starts right now. >> thanks and good evening. just a remarkable day of political drama as a feud turned into what i call a high stakes game of democratic poker. this was the wild card. >> thank you very much, mr. president. first of all, i feel awkward being here and now you're going to leave me all by myself. >> so, just how did it come to that? the hand began on the senate
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floor where he became a media sensation, while the speech went on for eight hours and 35 minutes, treating the president and his tax deal like a pinata. >> we pass this agreement and the national debt goes higher, it gives them more imptous to go forward. >> as he spoke and spoke and spoke, the liberal blogosphere lit up. when senator sanders became a trending topic, so team obama decided to make a meeting that was supposed to be private, extraordinarily public. the calculation, both risky and simple. i'll see your bernie sanders and raise you a bill clinton. >> there's never a perfect bipartisan bill in the eyes of a partisan and we all see this differently. but i really believe this will be a significant net plus for the country.
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>> while the current president left the briefing room after just a few minutes, the former president, he loved being back. i wasn't sure if he'd be done in time for us to be back here tonight. left, right and middle, with roland martin, erik son. he came on to the senate floor this morning, 69-year-old guy. that was trooifing the day's politics. the social media lighting up, liberal blogosphere. essentially, he was saying all day long, he was on the floor saying, we have a democratic president, but boy, he cut a republican deal. >> this was originally a republican idea. why did the republicans come up with this idea? well, these exactly the same people who don't believe in social security. these are the same people who either want to make significant cuts in social security or else
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they want to privatize social security entirely. >> the argument from senator sanders is that they see a democratic president they don't think the willing to fight, so president obama decided to bring bill clinton into the briefing room. bill clinton said yes, a better fight over health care reform, better fight if they try to take over the wall street regulations. better fight to take over new student loan rules, but the president said not this time. >> i think there are a lot of fights worth having and i presume the republicans want to fight those, too, since they ran on them. they'll be able to have those differences, but this holds the promise that after the fights are over, we'll be able to find principle, compromise on those areas as well. and to me, that's worth doing. but first, the economy first. >> so, so, so many questions to answer after a dramatic day like
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this. does this somehow diminish the current president or help him bake make the sell with liberals? >> i think it helps him, but also, you have to use those who are in your party who have been in that position before. remember, look at the issue of triangulation. many democrats say this reminds them of welfare reform, but what happened after welfare reform? he went on to re-election. you have a fight, use every bullet that you have including a former president. >> when he was president, the economy was booming. when he campaigned for democrats this year, he kept saying, 22 million jobs. the question is, who is he speaking to today? was he trying to get bernie standers and some of the liberals to calm down and take a deal, or to america, when i was president, you had a job.
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trust this president. >> both. i think the urgent message today twouz democrats. especially house democrats that look, this is an issue that should unit a democratic party. this issue may be controversial, but it's the spisht of compromise. he's advancing a broadly popular position. gallup poll showed that 52% of democra democrats support this, it'srop bill clinton. >> the right thought they were done with bill clinton. how did it feel to see him back today making the case? >> i think it's hilarious. this conversation going on now, it's not the president and public. it's executive to legislative. this is where logan has to bring back palmer. it's absolutely amazing that bill clinton is there while barack obama goes on, i wouldn't
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want to make my wife upset either and miss a christmas party, so i'm sympathetic. at the same time, this isn't the image p president wants. >> remember on the s.t.a.r.t. treaty, what happened? president obama brought in kissinger, baker, republican secretaries of state to make the argument. bush said ratify it. so, again, where you have individuals who have been there, you use them to your advantage. >> let me stop is conversation for a minute. breaking news, a state judge in alaska has rejected the challenge of joe miller, his ruling is that lisa murkowski has won the election. she was the incumbent republican defeated in the primary. she was leading by 10,000 votes. joe miller challenged that, saying the votes were not filled out just right. the judge has ruled in
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murkowski's favor. we'll continue to stay on top of that story. the last senate election to be certified. all of the house elections have been certified. here's the conversation in washington today. is president clinton a better communicator on the issue of the economy, especially, than the current president, barack obama? here's president obama yesterday makes his case that now, it's not a perfect deal, but it's a deal we need. >> but, if this framework fails, the reverse is true. americans would see it in smaller paychecks that would have the effect of fewer jobs, so as we meet here today to talk about one important facet for the future, i urge members of congress to move forward on this essential priority. >> that's obama yesterday. here's clinton today. >> the agreement taken as a whole is i believe the best
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bipartisan agreement we can reach to help the largest number of americans and to maximize the chances that the economic recovery will accelerate and create more jobs. and to minimize the chances that it will slip back, which is what has happened in other financial kris like that's what japan faced and something twoef avoid in america. >> when it come to talking to the middle of america about the economy, who's the better communicator? >> you've got to give it to bill clinton. he is unparalleled in terms of his ability to communicate policy detail off the cuff in a way that resognates with the moderate majority of americans. he's got huge credibility. he's enormously skilled. barack obama's a great communicator, especially when campaigning, but you've got to give it to bill clinton.
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>> the conversational style, but president bill clinton served in a variety of positions prior to the presidency. in terms of attorney general, being the governor. running, losing. his retail politics is far more extensive when you talk about going from a state senator, running for congress, losing, winning the u.s. senate seat, running for president, whole different deal. >> this is a critically important point. barack obama lost when he first ran for congress, but he hadn't been elected first. bill clinton was an elected governor who lost and had to scratch his way back. he would tell you that's the best lesson he learned. yes, the liberal democrats have to realize republicans won the election and they're going to have to give stuff up and that's going to be tough to swallow, but republicans better realize, too, they don't get to rule the world. >> it's funny, talking to a lot of people this week, the big gamble for republicans was they
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weren't sure they could get a better deal. so you've seen a lot of people sit on the sidelines. then you had the blowup yesterday among house democrats and all of a sudden, republicans felt very em bolden that the democrats were going to kill this deal so we can speak up. i think by the time the sun sets on december 31st, something will be in place. >> when we come back, more of the dramatic clinton appearance and why do politicians of good faith look at the same piece of paper, the same outline and see two incredibly different things? [ male announcer ] don't let aches and pains in the morning
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more breaking news this is the congressional budget office scoring of the tax cut deal president obama gauche waited with the republicans. it says it would cost more than $721 billion. tax rates won't go up. it also says the government would spend $136.4 billion more. the cost mostly of extending unemployment benefits. the folate total cost, two-year increase to the deficit, $857.8 billion. that is why some have objected. here's a column today from the conservative voice in "the washington post," he says this --
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that's a conservative voice saying the democrats won. well then why is bobby scott, a liberal democrat, saying earlier today, mr. president, you cut a bad deal? >> if you're going to do a tax cut, somebody's going to eventual lly have to pay for it and you can't give everybody a tax cut like it's oprah winfrey or santa claus, you get a tax cut, you get a tax cut and eventually, somebody's going to have to pay for it. >> it is odd, roland, that it's same deal. charles krauthammer, you'd think the republican leadership's for it. he says we got snookerred. >> you have charles writing a column where he is focusing on
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the politics of the deal, but you have congressman scott folkifolk i focusing on what's going to happen when you have to pay for it. i talked to him, we should extend the cuts for anybody. and so his whole point is what happens. jesse jackson jr. has a column today where he talked about will this be reaganomics. >> it is stunning to hear all these liberal critics -- >> deficit hawks. >> i love it. every time democrats are talking about fiscal responsibility, i think it's a good day in washington. what's creeping into the conservative criticism of this deal is something we haven't seen in a long time, which is conservatives acknowledging that tax cuts don't always pay for themselves. ten days ago, we were talking about the deficit and debt. this deal throws that out the window in name of bipartisan
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compromise an short-term economic stimulus. let's see if they can keep their debt down the line. >> when we come back to town next week, bill clinton tried to settle this today. by the end of next week, will we have a deal? >> i think we're going to have some changes before we get it done. the house republicans probably will go along and some of the senate republicans, but i'm hearing more and more, it did not help for rush limbaugh to go against it today. the heritage foundation is against it when all week, they've been saying they supported it. that's not going to help them come monday and tuesday. >> is there an argument to be made that if boent ends don't like it, that's okay? >> that's what people in washington tell themselves. >> absolutely. this is the way and again, you're likely going to see liberals falling in line because at the end of the day, can you get a better deal at this stage?
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i doubt it. >> the president said he had a holiday party to go to. we'll see if president clinton is hiding in the shadows. we talked about the fiscal mess in washington. how about being a big city mayor with a big deficit. the mayor of newark talks to us about cash strapped cities and a lot of talk that julian assange might be indicted by the united states. ooefb a report he has internet access to prison. and pete is apparently envious of me and he'll tell you why. [ sneezes ] you're up next.
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welcome back. let's check in with joe jones. >> a new warning today from defense secretary robert gates about don't ask don't tell. he says he now fears the courts will order an end to the pban o gays serving in the military openly after the senate failed to move forward with the repeal yesterday. elizabeth smart said she is thrilled by the guilty verdict against the man who kidnapped
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her. jury yors in utah rejected an insanity defense by brian david mitchell. >> i hope that not only is this an example that justice can be served in america, but that it is possible to move on after something terrible has happened and that we can speak out and we will be heard. >> an empty chair stood in for the chinese dissent awarded the nobel prize in norway. he is serving an 11-year prison sentence in china. china calls him a common criminal. >> we call him a bit of a hero. china is upset at the attention, but too bad, i guess, is the way to put it. that's a powerful symbol. joe, you follow alaska politics a lot. a judge in alaska, a state judge, rejected joe miller's case that lisa murkowski's signatures were invalid, but she
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while washington is fighting about tax cuts and whether to make deficit redetection a priority, state and local governments are in crisis mode. the economy is still sluggish, plus there's no more money from washington to help, so everywhere you look, there's pain and debate about what to do about it. these are states that face budget gaps in the negs fiscal year. 46 states. some of the states have benefitted from help from the stimulus program. the lighter blue is how much stimulus money has helped off state state budget gaps. in 2009, it was that big. in 2010, a little more. almost one-third of the money.
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this is what's happening, the light blue, the stimulus money is running out, so what happens with that? that presents a problem. let's take a look at the states hardest hit. california, more than 21%, now a gap illinois, 41. new jersey, 38%. that presents a problem. then the question, what do you do about it? this is just the city of los angeles. $320 million projected shortfall laying off teachers. that's one big potential. the police department, no new hiring there. also, salary reductions for the mayor, a symbolic move there. let's move over and look at chicago. another big challenge here. $655 million. cutting nearly 300 jobs. puing money from reserves, a lot of that happening. an more of a potential mid year crisis, so there could be more cuts down the road. let's move to new jersey.
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another state in the east coast. this goes from west to east. $83 million, the projected shortfall in 2011 in newark, new jersey. layoff some of the police force, a four-day workweek. one of the leaders forced to make those tough choices is a mayor, cory booker, who is in a very public battle. >> mayor booker, i think the question i would have as you deal with this, 400 city workers you're letting go, 15% of the police department. what next? if you listen to ben bernanke saying four or five years before we get back to robust economic growth. the outlook is more bleak than now, isn't it? >> for the whole nation, national league of cities look t at about 10 million municipal workers. 500,000 looking to be let go.
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here in newark, we're focusing on how to restructure government. how to do more with less. how to create public, private partnerships because there's no way government as we know it in america is going to be the same. this is nothing compared to the unfunded pension liableties we have in states like new jersey and california and new york, which goes to the trillions of dollars. >> it's probably not fair, but i assume politically, it's easier, quotes around easier, to layoff a janitor than a police officer. i could sit here now and write the ad. mayor cory booker, he let 15% of the police department go, robberies are up. it's the mayor's fault. >> at the end of the day, my job is to fix the problems. what we had to do is cut everything else. then we put everybody in city hall on four-day workweeks from the mayor down to clerk's assistants. we have done everything we could to shrink our government. in fact, now, over 80% of our entire spend of every tax dollar
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is going to personnel because we've got everything else. we were really left with nothing else to do but to cut police. we didn't want to cut police officers. we could avoided out of layoffs and thaths the thing we're finding as a rub, that the public sector unions have to be willing to work with us. >> you have to feel like you're on your own. when you look out there here in washington at the moment, the big debate is about whether to extend the bush tax cuts. is that small ball in your view? is anybody having a debate that ewe see as a ha, there's the seeds for actual economic growth that will help you out of this mess. >> i get a little frustrated. i do see a lot of leader who is
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talk about it. the conversation should be as how we in this country are going to grow our economy. what helps us create a more competitive climate for business growth and investment. there are a lot of strategies we've seen that have worked. we see them in other countries. >> what about stimulus spending? should the president of the united states be saying, i know this is unpopular, but we need to spend more on cities like nuk newark? >> if it's just stimulus dollars, what happens the next year? that's not the kind of spending that's going to create long-term sustainable growth in our economy. it's something that cities like ours want, but i'm more interested in the kind of stimulus spending that's going to create long-term economic growth, that's going to create sustained jobs in my city. investment and infrastructure create economic growth. creating a right kind of tax breaks with import areas like in my city.
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creating tax breaks for research. in areas like my city, that has a lot of research units, actually creates economic growth. >> we'll grade the president as part of that debate. i know the president is a friend of yours. many democrats in this town are frustra frustrated. they think he's taken a message and that is cooperate rate with the republicans to cut spending on some things. cooperate rate with the republicans to try put the budget on a path to being balanced where many say he should stand up and draw more red lines an fight. what do you think? >> i'd love to see a white house willing to get in it, but what's being elevated is the shallow, partisan divide, our country likes to witness a fight. tax policies that make sense that promote growth within our communities and areas. investments in infrastructure that help build economies and
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sustain long-term economic growth. these are the kinds of conversations we should be having. this is not a time to cut back all spending. but it is a time not to make bad investments. that are one-time fixes. we make long-term investments that are going to reap a reward. cutting back on rnd, higher education, infrastructure support, these are the things that make no sense. >> lastly on that point, if you talk to especially some of the new class of republican governors, you ask them for an example, they point to chris christie. he's become a national model. does mayor booker think that's a good thing or bad thing? >> the cult of personality of politics, i'm not going to get into. he is a friend. he lies the jets. i like the giants. but the reality is when it comes to solving problems, i'm happy to have a governor that's saying, wait a minute, we have
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real, national problems here we're not talking at because nobody wants to hear bad news and right now, i think it's almost an obligation of executive leaders, republican or democr democrat, to tell the truth. for example, we have trillions of dollars of unfunded pension liableties. these are not going to go away. you can be a very successful politician by not talking at it. eventually, you're going to be pushing things off and we're all going to fall off a cliff. we've got to start getting away from partisan conversation, speculation about who's going to run for president and look at where we are now and how do we protect our democracy. the american democracy, this great noble experment is going to be cannibalized if we cannot get a dialogue that confronts our problems honestly and talks about real solutions and not short-term partisan political victories. chris christie and i have formed
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a partnership around finding solutions. when it comes to issues like educating urban youth, which the majority of our nation's workforce will be minority very soon unless we heal this education gap. our entire gdp is going to suffer as a result. if i can find a republican partner willing to tell the truth about education and work with me in a substantive way, i want that partnership. i don't care who you are, if you're in the arena and willing to take on the righteous fight of the american democracy to make it more prosperous, then that's a person i want to be on the field with. if we all get on the field, instead of thinking this is just a spectator sport, if everybody gets into the game, we're going to be able to move this democracy forward. we are bigger than the problems
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that face us, but we've got to start acting like that. >> thanks for your time. as the justice department contacted attorneys for julian assange, a british newspaper reports he has internet access in prison. really? one of his attorneys joins us just ahead. questions about retirement? i talk to their retirement account specialists. bonds? grab the phone. fixed-income specialist. td ameritrade knows investors sometimes need real, live help. not just one broker... a whole team there to help... to help me decide what's right for me. people with answers at td ameritrade. get up to $500 when you open an account.
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wikileaks founder is in a london pris for a fourth day. he faces a hearing on extradition to swede en, but his legal troubles could get a lot worse ft there's growing concern that he may be indicted here in the united states in connection with the leak of hundreds of thousands of secret diplomatic documents. we're joininged my his lawyer. i want to make clear from the beginning, have you had any official contact from the united states government? whether it's the justice department or anyone from the embassy. >> absolutely not. we are of course concerned as a result of the very public pronouncements about the potential prosecution of our client under the espionage act. but we haven't had any formal
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communication as of yet. >> i want you to listen to the attorney general of the united states who has spoken about his personal involvement. >> we are doing everything that we can. we have been very serious, active, ongoing investigation that is criminal in nature. i authorized just last week a number of things to be done so that we can hopefully get to the bottom of this and hold people accountable as they should be. >> you hear the attorney, but sources, the justice department is under considerable pressure to charge mr. assange. >> i think the u.s. government is under pressure to prosecute, but we have yet to see a sensible explanation under legal provisions upon which they would like to prosecute our client. he hasn't committed a crime.
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he is a publisher in wikileaks and any prosecution of mr. assange as editor of wikileaks would call into protection of the first amendment in the u.s. and should be cause for concern for all media organizations. >> what goes through your mind when you hear people, charge him under the espionage act? >> of course we're taking legal advice on what provisions they seek to rely. >> does it make any difference, he is being held in the u.k. now and perhaps would be extradited to sweden. does it make any difference if the united states did have a charge and want to seek custody of mr. assange? is he better off sitting in the u.k. than if he were sitting in a prison or no difference? >> both sweden and the u.k. have
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extradition agreements from the u.s. we would prefer to fight the charges here on the grounds that britain has a strong provision op of liberty. on that basis, we would like to fight it here, but we don't have any information. we are concerned about the prospect given all of the sounds coming out of washington, but we don't have any specific information as to what's happening at this stage and we believe our client hasn't committed any crime. >> since the initial hearing, have there been any progress about your efforts to have these charges thrown out or is that in limbo? >> we are still yet to receive the evidence that form the basis of these allegations. we have to remember these allegations came out in august and the prosecutor wants to question or client. she has refused cooperation and refused or questions for evidence. district judge riddle on tuesday at the hearing expressed concern at the strength of the evidence that founds the basis for the
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arrest warrant and has well suggested to the prosecution that ought to make submissionings in that regard. until an unless we get that gefd, we're unable to provide submissions to the court on that point. so we are severely ham strung in terms of preparing our case on tuesday. >> can you tell us about the conditions on the prison? there was a report that he had been put on a different ward and that he had received some form of computer access and perhaps internet access. some would find that highly amusing, others alarming. is that true? >> well, the conditions are restrictive. he is of course being held in a segregated wing under special security surveillance. he does not have access to the internet. not even a laptop.
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he has had limited access to newspapers or telephone calls. indeed, it's been incredibly difficult for us to arrange visitations with him to take his legal instructions. we had our first visit yesterday for an hour. it's inadequate for us to take his instructions to prepare this appeal. >> what did he say during that visit about what has transpired? to some, he's a hero. to some, he's a villain. >> he's frustrated to be held in prison for a chime he hasn't committed and when i informed him of the allegations that have been circulating on, in the media about the allegations that he somehow ordered these hacking attacks on mastercard and visa. he sees this as a delibt attempt to -- wikileaks is a publishing
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organization. a media organization and it has no engagement in hacking. he did not order any sort of attack on any of those organizations. and he wishes that he was outside of prison so he could refute them himself. he's quite frustrated in that regard. >> appreciate your time today. >> you're welcome. up next, a return to politics back home. a tax mutiny against the president complicates his goals for the lame duck session of congress. moments can change anytime -- just like that. and when they do men with erectile dysfunction can be more confident in their ability to be ready with cialis for daily use. cialis for daily use is a clinically proven, low-dose tablet you take every day, so you can be ready anytime the moment is right. tell your doctor about your medical condition and all medications, and ask if you're healthy enough for sexual activity. don't take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure.
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an interesting week to say the least. the president cuts a big tax cut deal with republicans and when the vice president tells angry house democrats to take it or leave it, well, ta leave it. mutiny makes for interesting politics, but what will it take to move the debate forward? dana bash joibs us from capitol hill. i want you to listen, this is the president of the united states with npr. >> my sense is there are going to be discussions between both house and senate leadership about all the final elements of the package. keep in mind, we didn't actually write a bill. we put forward a framework. i'm confident that the framework is going to look like the one we put forward. >> if this was just a frame work, then why is the vice president going into meetings, saying, take it or leave it? >> because they tried that and it didn't quite work.
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when they announced the bill, dana will tell you, that they were saying, this is the deal. no amendments. no changes. then it was this is a framework, take it or leave it. it hasn't worked. they don't have the votes. what the president is stressing i think in that interview, this is the framework, we hope to keep most of it. i think it's likely they tinger on the few things so house democrats can say, we were mad, we stood up to the president, we made it better. >> what's interesting is that i am finding in talking to members of congress, even in the leadership, it's not just that it's a framework versus legislation. the problem is that this framework was negotiated between vice president biden and mitch mcconnell, so nobody else really knew what was in it. on thursday night, the senate actually put pen to paper and made this into language.
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now, they're actually seeing, so it sort of depends on what the definition of is is. look at all of this in here for u but who knows. >> so they negotiated in the context of the new politics, but the republicans more powerful, but maybe forgetting that the democrats are still in charge. >> right. i think this was the president's way of saying, oops, we didn't include you in these discussions and so, instead of calling it a done deal, we're going to say, well, we're going to let you put your fingerprint on it one way or another, but just one little fingerprint. >> he said he would be post partisan. maybe post democrat. sorry about that. it's not just the house liberals that are upset. in the senate, there's criticism, too. one of the great dramas that played out on friday, bernie sanders was the socialist mayor of vermont. he went to the floor for hours and hours and hours.
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one of the points he wanted to make was that the little guy gets screwed her. he mention ed john mack of morgn stanley, saying you get a huge bonus last year. your company got loans while in trouble and now this. >> instead of losing his job under this agreement, mr. mack will be receiving an estimated $926,000 tax break next year. congratulations, mr. mack, just. 250 bucks for disabled men. >> dana, this was quite the drama. not technically a filibuster, but talking on for hours and hours in an old style word like the filibuster becoming a trendy topic in the new social media. >> absolutely. and bernie sanders is just thrilled that he's the hottest thing on twitter for doing this, and everything else. but the bottom line is that bernie sanders has been the most vocal of many democrats in the senate and the house, who are just flat out not going to vote for -- no matter how much they tinker around the edges.
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but that does belie the reality, which does seem to be in the united states' senate, at least, both democratic leaders and republican leaders are a lot more confident. >> you know what's interesting, too, is more and more what i'm picking up at the white house, they're trying to become more pro business, the president is highlighting trade, stunned by allegations they were at war with the u.s. chamber of commerce. they want to say, look, we were going to make the business climate good, tax cuts very favorable to the business community. and i just heard on wednesday of next week, the president is going to have sort of a summit with ceos at blair house across from the white house. and my point is as the president gets closer and closer to the business community to sell this, some of his own democrats are beating up on wall street, the kind of rhetoric he did early on, but has moved far, far away from. >> there was a gallup poll that shows that 67% of voters favor tax cuts for everyone. and that what i believe this white house is looking at. those are the people they have to win back. >> so it's a big pivot. >> no, i think it's a very big
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pivot. and i think that the democrats are just going to have to sort of pick their fights, figure out where they can deal with president obama, but understand that this is about keeping the white house. >> and so the longer the debate, the renegotiations, the turning of framework into legislation takes, the more in question everything else is in this lame duck year-end session of congress. however, senator john mccain, who had been one of the critics saying we're probably not going to get to that star treaty, probably won't get to that, because we need time to talk about it, he seems is and a little fun here, listen, to be warming to the idea. >> being a snob, i don't pay that close attention to who goes on in the house of representatives. but apparently from media reports, there is some kind of a revolt going on. how serious that, i'm not sure. but i would also like to point out, i think that s.t.a.r.t. is very important, okay? and i would like to see it
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ratified. >> eggs he is starting to lean into that one, dana. >> definitely is. i don't think that means he's going to vote for it if it does come before the senate, but i can tell that democratic leaders were thrilled to hear him say that, thrilled that two other republican senators, olympia snowe and collins said they would report it. they said in the senate they were just waiting for the green light from the white house, all systems are go. they can take it to the floor for ratification. and i do expect at this point the senate is going to stay here until they take this up. >> flipped in a couple weeks. a couple weeks ago, the s.t.a.r.t. treaty looked dead. maybe he doesn't get the tax -- >> he is getting the deal. >> he is getting things that are foreign policy or his tax deal. what about this as the last for the liberals? they control the house, the senate. when we come back in january, they'll have a smaller margin in the senate.
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dana anything in the liberal wish list they're holding up saying, they need to get this through? >> don't ask, don't tell is a great example. what happened on thursday with that defeat, there is so much anger, especially in the gay rights community elsewhere that harry reid put up that vote, knowing it was going to fail. they feel if they don't at least try to take it up one more time in the lame duck session, they'll be very upset, especially if it means doing the s.t.a.r.t. treaty and not doing that. >> did you think democrats are nervous with president clinton in the oval office -- maybe they got a taste this week on the tax cut deal and having bill clinton at the white house probably raised eyebrows. >> and bill clinton said what a mistake he made. >> the former president told me this was a big stop on obama's "i get it" tour. having bill clinton to the oval office. >> do you remember bill clinton? i don't know if i -- >> see these gray hairs? i remember him. >> do you remember when bill clinton had everybody up to camp david for scholars and therapists and everybody after
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'49 to kind of tell him how to proceed? this is i think president obama's mini version of that. >> all right, all right. all the help he can get, i guess. thanks. up next, pete dominic is apparently jealous that i have one of these. it's an invite to a white house christmas party. why would pete be mad? ge traded. ge traded. some firms offer them "commission free." problem is they limit the choice of etfs to what makes financial sense to them. td ameritrade doesn't limit you to one brand of etfs... they offer more than 100... each selected by investment experts at morningstar associates. only at the etf market center at td ameritrade. before investing, carefully consider the fund's investment objectives, risks, charges, and expenses. contact td ameritrade for a prospectus containing this and other information. read it carefully before investing.
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the company holiday party is back. after a few years of belt tightening, more companies are once again hosting their annual get-togethers. and of course you know this, our off beat reporter pete dominic well, never wanted to miss a party. >> reporter: that's right, john king, the white house having their holiday party tonight. i think you're on the invite list. and i wanted to find out if people are looking forward to their work holiday parties or even if they're having one this year. let's go find out.
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>> yeah, i'm looking forward to it. >> absolutely, yeah. >> are you afraid you might drink too much and do something that's a mistake? that's always a concern with the work holiday party. the alcohol. one thing lead to another, you're making out with your boss. >> actually, my boss is a man, so -- well -- >> reporter: not that that's a bad thing -- >> probably, yeah. >> reporter: i'm going to my work holiday party. wait. wait, why is my car leaving? what kind of place do you work at? >> good morning america. >> reporter: don't drink too much. we won't. >> reporter: i know how diane sawyer gets. >> she is wonderful. >> reporter: thank you very much. you're invited to our holiday party. the students. they're all coming at my husband or wife, it's going to be fun. >> whew! happy holidays. >> i'm just having people over. music. >> reporter: i can break dance, you know. >> you can? can you do the waltz? >> reporter: we're at our own holiday party right now. whew-hoo!

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